Baggins
12:19 Sun May 24
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T - We dont currently have the resources to be top six. So I aspire us to be a mid table team, who attempt to play half decent football and are good to watch. The odd cup run would be nice, although obviously this depends on how a season is going and injuries.
Basically the club we have been for 99 percent of our history. We'll have good seasons, we'll have bad seasons.
What I don't want us to be is mid table while being boring and defensive, relying on tactics that involve conceding possession and territory for most of the game and hoping that we'll nick a goal from a set piece. Some games, that will happen, especially against better sides. But to have his philosophy game after game, season after season, will suck the life and enthusiasm out of the whole club.
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Johnson
12:18 Sun May 24
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Mr T. 12:03 Sun May 24
I'm talking about the Premierleague so of course I'm ignoring his Championship record.
Although now you mention it, he took us on the LONGEST run EVER in our history WITHOUT a win whilst in the second flight and with a substantially better set of resources than other clubs.
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AKA ERNIE
12:12 Sun May 24
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Mr t how about the fact ive sat in my season tkt seat bored absolutely shitless since sam revert3d to type by setting up to nick a 0 0 win against such power houses as burnley and sunderland .
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13 Brentford Rd
12:06 Sun May 24
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Moyes would be an upgrade just. The football would only be marginally better, the results you would expect should be better but he would at least show a bit more respect for the club and the job which would unite the fans.
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Darby_
12:06 Sun May 24
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Moyes + money would mean a new golden age for West Ham I reckon.
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Mr T.
12:05 Sun May 24
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Baggins - which teams should we be looking to emulate then? Who do you aspire us to be?
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terry-h
12:04 Sun May 24
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samsonbigboy
Were you watching the Sunday Supplement just finished?
One of the journos on that said the same thing as you.
It is a possibility I suppose,and wouldn't be the worst choice by any means.
I don't know why there is such enthusiasm for Benitez. His record in recent years is not that great and I don't think he is a great fit for West Ham.
Moyes or Bilic would suit me quite nicely.
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Mr T.
12:03 Sun May 24
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So, this 25% of the last 75 games stat, Mr T.
Why are you ignoring it?
It's a bit better than the 19% win rate we had in the two years before Allardyce took over.
And you conveniently ignore his win rate in the championship (where I am sure you would have demanded 100%)
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Johnson
11:57 Sun May 24
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Moyes is still a step up from BFS.
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samsonbigboy
11:56 Sun May 24
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I've got a very strong feeling that Moyes will be named manager on Tuesday. The Tony Henry link is too big a factor to ignore.
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Baggins
11:48 Sun May 24
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Mr T - What utter bollocks.
It's fairly simple what the fans want. They want to look forward to actually going to games again. They want to see a bit of football played and if we do go 1-0 up, they want to see the team try to continue to play instead of sitting on the edge of the box for the next 75 minutes attempting to strangle the game and bore the other team to death. They want us to approach away games with a bit of positive intent instead of obsessing about clean sheets and defensive shape.
Trying to win some cup games and having some creativity in the team outside of set pieces would be a nice bonus too.
Is that deluded? Is that all too much to ask? Considering plenty of other teams manage to do it without any problem, and we managed to do it for our entire history up unil four seasons ago, I dont think it is.
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Johnson
11:45 Sun May 24
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So, this 25% of the last 75 games stat, Mr T.
Why are you ignoring it?
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Mr T.
11:44 Sun May 24
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Yes a nice hungry, optimistic manager who can tell us everything is going to be fine. Sounds exactly like Roeder did to me.
And banging on about the second half of our season being a disaster is as ludicrous as me saying we should offer him a five year contract at Christmas (I didnt!), when we were 4th, yes 4th in the Premier League. At Christmas.
The tragedy is that it's the bitterest of the cunts on here who are actually glad we have had such a poor run-in. They simply hated Allardyce as a person from the start, (which is actually fair enough) - and our poor form now gives them an excuse to say how awful he is as a Manager (the long term loss of our two main strikers never gets a mention).
However to try and say that his overall tenure has not been successful is ridiculous. In relative terms, it most certainly has been.
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Johnson
11:32 Sun May 24
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Someone that can win more than a QUARTER of the last 75 games, Mr. T.
Do you think that's a good stat?
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stirlinghammer
11:31 Sun May 24
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Well kronic, we did under result get......
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The Kronic
11:29 Sun May 24
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If you want fucking stats then check out our pitiful win ratio since fat cunt's whinge about 'overachieving'.
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Mr T.
11:23 Sun May 24
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Yep, both those posts do a better job of making my point than anything I could write. Thanks for that.
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The Kronic
11:22 Sun May 24
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I just want a hungry, ambitious manager who will go all out to win every game, and not have the fat cunt's attitude that some are there to be thrown. I want a manager who will instil belief and optimism instead of fat cunt's pessimism and negativity.
Shove your cunty stats up your shitter.
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The Kronic
11:18 Sun May 24
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So then, spell it out anti-Sam boys, what will you be looking for from our new Manager - and I want stats, not platitudes. Points, league position the lot.
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What a knob.
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Mr T.
11:17 Sun May 24
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Oh ffs.
The defence to be made of Allardyce is that he has hit every target asked of him. In any other job that would keep him in his role, but not with us.
It's ironic that we are playing Newcastle today as I really think we are beginning to sound a lot like them. Delusions of grandeur and entitlement to success. The Sam-out brigade don't really seem to know what they want other than calling everyone a cunt/moron/idiot/not a real fan/blabla who disagrees.
One minute we are being asked to judge him on his record, the next on the quality of the entertainment on display. If we look at his record he has achieved everything he was asked. If Blackpool had managed to find a way to beat us three years ago, we could easily have become the next Sheffield United or Wigan. From an entertainment perspective, yes it's been poor lately but if anyone says that most of our early seasons displays were dull and boring they are clearly talking bollocks.
So then, spell it out anti-Sam boys, what will you be looking for from our new Manager - and I want stats, not platitudes. Points, league position the lot.
For what its worth my posts have not been about whether or not Sam should stay - I am neutral on the subject, it was just that I cannot understand the bile and bitterness towards a man who could actually be said to have played a hugely significant part in us avoiding absolute disaster as a club.
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Johnson
10:34 Sun May 24
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We've won 18 of the last 75 Premierleague games apparently.
Now, Mr T, Blagg, would you like to defend those stats please?
Does winning 25% of your games GUARANTEE survival? Has it been worth all that money spent?
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